When God Abandons the Public Schools – Tim Challies

When God Abandons the Public Schools

Yesterday morning I was in despair. In the morning paper I had read about a new health curriculum that was to be introduced to the public schools here in Ontario. Beginning next school year, students were to receive a thorough indoctrination in sex education. And as you probably know, my wife and I have chosen to enroll our kids in public schools. We were despairing, wondering how we would deal with this new reality. Would this be the last straw, the situation that would force us to consider alternatives? Would this be a one-day program for which we could easily withdraw our children from school? Or would it be something they would be taught over the course of the entire year? Questions abounded; answers were few.  …

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Tim Challies asked that the post not turn into a public / private / homeschool debate in his comments.

But what are your thoughts?

Can something like this ignore the public / private / homeschool debate?


8 thoughts on “When God Abandons the Public Schools – Tim Challies

  1. BW,
    I’m BAAACK 😉

    The more I see about what’s going on in public schools the more I agree with the homeschooling idea. While I am not expecting children in the near future, and therefore have at least 4-5 years to wait on this decision, my husband and I have greatly discussed this and have agreed to homeschool our future children.

    My husband’s best friend and his wife are going to be homeschooling their children (their oldest just turned 4 at Christmas), and she’s made some homeschooling points that even I hadn’t thought of. While I think there is a place for Christians in public schools, it would take an incredibly strong-willed and thick-skinned child to go into a public school and positively impact the students for Christ rather than following the crowd.


    Berean Wife Reply:


    Welcome back. 🙂

    I read through the comments on the original piece and I agree with the gist of several commenters.

    “What you know is being taught is the least of your worries!”

    It is the hidden and seemingly innocent things that will catch us by surprise.

    Since you are in Canada, I’m sure this hits closer to home since it was about Canadian school policies. I’m glad you have discussed the issue ahead of time, many just choose public school due to the default of not preparing before faced with needing to make a decision.

    Even those of us who have been believers for years tend to fall and to slip when faced day in and day out with opposition to our faith. It is expecting alot for a young child not to fall and the need to fight every moment of everyday. Almost like setting them up to fail. 🙁

    Berean Wife

  2. Can something like this ignore the public / private / homeschool debate?

    No, I don’t think it can. But as the parent of public high schoolers, I do understand the relief of every victory as a Christian parent.

    Right now, I am just counting down the days until my kids graduate.

    Berean Wife Reply:


    I see you understand the problem. I’m thrilled that they were able to get that proposed teaching off the table. I would fight that same teaching even without my children being in public school. There is NO child that needs to be taught such.

    Another interesting point that was mentioned somewhere in that article is that while Christians were in an uproar over it, it wasn’t until the Muslims got involved that is was pulled off the table. Shows who holds more sway in today’s society! 🙁

    I just think it is hard to really discuss any topic if you limit the information available.

    An example being: A discussion on how immodest the bikini swim suits are at the store. While we can have a good discussion about modesty or bikinis and what to do about them, we have failed to really discuss the matter if we work only from the basis of bikinis. Saying that others styles of swim wear, one piece swimsuits or swim cover-ups can’t be discussed is quite limiting.

    Does that make since to you or only to me? ??

    I understand your situation and please don’t be offended; I meant none by the post. My point is this: That this is a Christian writer and father with a large audience who limited the discussion as if public / private and homeschooling wasn’t applicable to the whole discussion, limiting it to just the government school proposals and it getting taken down.

    Berean Wife

    [email protected] Reply:

    Your analogy makes perfect sense to me. And I’m not offended at all. I am well versed (by experience no less) of the problems and pitfalls of public education and would never want to insist that they aren’t open for discussion.

    In fact, I think things are as bad as they are because Christian parents who use public school are either oblivious or in denial about the issues and refuse to take them on.

    Berean Wife Reply:


    That’s good that you understood my analogy and I’m glad I didn’t offend you, also. 🙂

    Just as I would never talk about homeschooling and ignore the hard parts: the mess, the tired, the exasperation at times. Those in public school need to discuss the hard parts associated with that form of education, one of the worse being the inability to really know what is being taught.

    In fact, I think things are as bad as they are because Christian parents who use public school are either oblivious or in denial about the issues and refuse to take them on.

    I agree! Why is it so hard to discuss some matters? Like the saying “never discuss religion and politics”. I’m afraid some really deep down realize that if they actually dealt with the matter, they might have to make a different decision or at least find they really didn’t know what they were talking about.

    I’m looking forward to reading the author’s proposed explanation as to why public school is the best choice for his young children. Should be interesting.

    Berean Wife

  3. I have to tread very carefully around people in my church. We have several teachers (including our pastor’s wife) who are members and they see it as an offense if anything is mentioned about immorality in school. Having said that, I cannot imagine sending my kids back to Sodom. We first started looking to homeschool because of weak academics. When my 10 year old came home with materials about “Your Changing Body” (which included info I would blush to share here) I realized that we needed to take over our children’s education. I have people who tell me that their children are “a witness” to the unbelievers in their schools. Children as young as 5 in my opinion should not be expected to do the work of an evangelist when they are probably very firmly grounded in their faith. Especially considering that their faith is questioned and or ridiculed on a regular basis.

    Berean Wife Reply:


    I know what you mean. The biggest local employer around here is the school system! Typically the excuse is given “Yeah, but our school is different.” There is no way for everyone who says their school is different to really have a different school.

    We never had to worry about public school (although I’ve threatened my kids with it). However, the fruit evident from some of the “church” kids was enough to keep us away for good. I can’t imagine what is taught today, it was bad enough when I was in school.

    The five year old missionary is a well used idea that doesn’t work nor is it Biblical. Yet we 30 and 40 year olds shrink from our own opportunities to witness so often!

    Berean Wife

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